Jill Stein coming to the PNW

(copied from an email the Greens sent me)


Rally in Seattle with Dr. Jill Stein and Friends!

Seattle: Come hear Jill and her very special guests Kshama Sawant from Socialist Alternative, Bill Moyer from the Backbone Campaign and Solutionary Rail, and Patrick Mazza from Climate Mobilization and TheDelta 5.
Monday October 24th
UW Kane Hall Auditorium (Room 130) – 7 pm
(UW Kane Hall map) (Facebook event)


Jill Stein in Olympia!
NOTE: Time change to 3:30 PM and location change to Lecture Hall 1 near Red Square
Olympia: Join us for an afternoon talk with Dr. Jill Stein.

Monday October 24th
The Evergreen State College – Lecture Hall 1
(near Red Square) – 3:30 PM
(Evergreen State College Map – Lecture Halls are #9 on map) (Facebook event)


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(Added by Dave, even if the Greens are not your favorite choice. Please consider that they feel strongly that we should have Honest elections, Ranked Choice Voting, much easier paths for Grass Roots parties to join the Election Process and MUCH more. They are the ONLY path that I know of that wants to make it possible for new Parties to become serious contenders. This is just one of the reasons that many smaller parties with different goals are endorsing and voting for all of the Greens. The first step in better govt.)

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Robn & Dave visit Zurich

As some of you know, we are in Zurich, Switzerland, for a week. Then we go to Paris, France, for a week and then to visit one of Robn’s brothers and his wife in central New York, for about 8 days. Then the Pacific Northwest (PNW), for a few weeks, then Trinidad for the Winter.


We are in Zurich, because it costs much less to fly from our boat in Turkey to NY, by way of Zurich. We save a few hundred dollars and get an excuse to see Zurich, Paris and some places in between. But, briefly. We hope to return.

We found an AirBnB in Leimbach, in the suburbs of Zurich and are loving it. We arrived Monday the 17th but they were out of SIM cards for our phone at the Airport, that made us late enough that the excellent bus and train system would give us EXACTLY one chance to make several connections and schlep all of our luggage to the AirBnB before our host had to go to work at 5PM. And, with no SIM cards, we could not call him.

So, we took a cab. OUCH! About US$83.67 for a 25 minute ride. We had a 2 hour ride in Turkey from the boat to the Airport for US$75.26, because the much less expensive bus, does not leave until 6AM and then you need to make connections for the bus from the bus station to the Airport and it had to work PERFECTLY, or we would be late for the flight. Deja vu.

We then had to go back to Zurich the next day on the bus and train to get our SIM cards. At the bus stop, we asked a Swiss woman about the way the tickets worked and she spoke excellent English and was going to nearly the same place, so, we had a great conversation with her and she invited us for supper!

She told us about a tram that we could ride for free with our ticket that gave us a ‘tour’ of the city, so we did. And then to supper and got to meet her English husband. Wonderful folks.

She also suggested a walk all of the way from downtown Zurich, back to our AirBnB along a nice and mostly very rural river. The weather has been cloudy and often light rain, but we were OK on Wednesday the 19th with raincoats and umbrellas. We got a glimpse of one of Google’s giant office buildings. We were told that they have a LOT of their offices in this area.


This photo above is in town.


This is halfway to the AirBnB

Then, today, Thursday the 20th, it was often sunny, so, we wanted to hike the mountain ridge near our AirBnB. Our host offered to drive us to one of the Trail Heads.

There we were quickly reminded that Switzerland is rather badly wrinkled in some places. This was one. We old people had to climb about 220 meters vertical in about 600 meters horizontal distance. Whew!


Then, we climbed another 100 meters in 500 meters along the ridge. Better, but we had not exactly recovered from the first part.


We rested a little and then went about 4 or 5 km along a very nice trail/gravel road along the fairly level ridge and then down a steep decent to the AirBnB.


It is so beautiful here. Zurich is a very old city. About 2,000 years ago, the Romans gave it a boost, but the location is so good for farming, fishing, logging, and trade, that I assume that something has been here far longer. Yet they keep LARGE, well managed forests and farm land, often organic, very close to the city center and LOTS of folks of all ages are out walking, even in the rain. So nice to see people care about their environment.

Dave & Robn

The RV Saga

We have been looking into buying a small RV and thought that we had found one in Salem Oregon, but the Internet says that the owner of the Used Car lot has many lawsuits for not dealing honestly with some people.

So, IF he has what he says he has and we can make a deal with him that protects us, we may be OK, but if you have suggestions, this is a good time to mention them. (Oct 10, 2016)


Dave & Robn

An attempt to clarify

A friend just emailed me:

I would like a clarification of one paragraph in your blog, the entry for June 22nd.

“I have dear friends that refuse to figure this out. I cannot help them. I have tried. I side with the people that want Bernie’s Platform and because of seeing the reality of today’s DNC and today’s MSM, etc, I am learning who the Good Guys are. I am writing names down. I will not forget. I will not forgive.”

The last three sentences could be interpreted as a threat. Are they? If so, who are you threatening, and what are you threatening them with?

Thanks. I should clarify. I was referring to the Main Stream Media and various talking heads, like Robert Reich. From now on, I will pay little attention to whatever they say, even when they seem truthful for a long time. I will remember that they have been liars on very important issues.

It makes more sense when you learn that nearly all American Main Stream Media (MSM) is owned by 5 companies and the same few people are on many of the boards of those companies. And that they are the main donors for Hillary, Trump, the DNC & GOP.

Clearly many of my friends do not have the time or inclination to cross check the data. That is a shame. We can do a good job of confirming the accuracy of a piece of data, in most cases, with not much effort. For example, Bernie’s Platform and Jill NOT being Anti-Vax are posted right in the obvious spots on their websites.

Even sources that have been usually very good, have slipped in some bad propaganda, like The Young Turks, an Internet News source. I still watch them but I assume that they will try again. This link below, and many others, by Jimmy Dore seems quite good.


If someone has different goals, someone thinks that we must do away with Unions or that Women should not vote, or whatever, fine. That is their position. I have good friends that I disagree with, but for NPR/PBS to lie about Bernie’s Platform or edit out parts of Jill Stein’s answer to a question to dramatically change the meaning, that is committing a treachery, that I will remember for a long time.

Even the sources that have not yet been caught in misinformation, I still try to crosscheck. I no longer have trust and I want to do what I can to use accurate data.

Does that clarify?

And, is it actually a threat to just explain what I am planning to do? I am not saying do such and such or else. I am just explaining that I just want to keep records about reliability (or is it accuracy, or integrity), to save my time. Many friends of mine like the NYT, but the NYT has published so many maliciously misleading articles, that I stopped reading them.

It is complicated. Some sources have various writers with vastly differing views. Some of these seem to be accurate and others not, within one publication or website. So, few, if any, sources are all right or all wrong. It is ironic that the Russians and Arabs often seem to be far more honest.

Dave & Robn